#Interview with comedian Liam McGough on #EdFringe show Two Guys, One GCSE – A Dave Vaughn and Liam McGough Production #JustTheTonic #TheMashHouse #MixItUp #TwoGuysOneGCSE

Interview with Liam McGough

hosted by Bookmarks and Stages –
Louise Cannon

I recently interviewed comedian, Liam McGough, rather timely given there’s a little bit more conversation around the working class. Coincidentally he and I are both of this class. We talked about his comedy show, Two Guys One GCSE. He has an agenda and that is to make people laugh. He has answered questions candidly giving a little bit about his life, the quite frankly strange attitude some middle class audiences have when they see him. We also talk about overcoming challenges and who inspired him. Discover too, whether awards help a performance or not… Ultimately, the show is just about making people laugh, that’s what is most important to him, as you will find out in the interview. He steers away from politics and the like and even his title is described as “a silly play on words”. After the interview, you can find out where to follow him and how you can see his show at Just The Tonic venue – The Mash House, see further details after the interview.

Let’s warmly welcome Liam McGough to Bookmarks and Stages

The name Two Guys One GCSE is a silly play on words, referencing an unwatchable video that went around when I was at school.

It was a unique time, pre-social media, and it had its own sense of humour. The sheer ignorance of that time, when looked back on today, is amusing to me.

It was lads and ladettes, lads’ mags and gossip mags. Greasy curtains for boys and rock-hard hairspray for girls. At the time, being brash and stupid was celebrated.

I was a late developer and really struggled with learning. I was, bottom set for everything and in special classes for disruptive pupils and those falling behind with their learning. Some teachers just thought I had no future, and others sent me out of class without even bothering to check.

But even though I knew I couldn’t keep up academically, I had a strong sense that I was smart and that people just couldn’t see it because my brilliance was lost amongst the 10,000 annoying questions and statements I would make.

To summarise, I was, and am, smart. The style of learning just wasn’t suited to people who think like me. But whether I was a write-off or simply misunderstood, I had the ability to make people laugh — teachers and students alike. That helped me survive school.

So, when trying to make people laugh with an Edinburgh show, what better time to talk about than the period when you developed your sense of humour?

 You aim is to tell jokes and stories with the only agenda to make people laugh. So many comedians look at health or politics, so was this a conscious decision and what led you to this?

My intention is to give people a break from having other people’s views forced upon them. It’s one thing to shine a light on the darkness in this world and another to use the stage as a soapbox.

Too often, comedians think they know best and that it’s their responsibility, as one of the great minds of our time, to “educate” people. Firstly, I think this discredits people’s intelligence, and secondly, how does a group that famously are not considered titans of industry, have the most to say about how that money goes on to be distributed?

My views are very liberal and fall left of centre, but I find it uncomfortable to hear both sides be so sure of everything and say it with such aggression. I’m yet to meet a single person who has read everything there is to read on any one subject.

So, when faced with a world so broken by disagreement, wouldn’t it be nice to take a break for a moment and focus on something we all share: laughter?

 Who or what inspired you to be a stand-up comedian?

This is harder to answer, as many of my peers are like encyclopedias of information about great comics and their material. But the truth is, I’m not a huge consumer of stand-up comedy.

There are people I find funny, but I don’t have specific comedians I particularly follow. I like hearing funny people chat with each other — people like Norm Macdonald, Bernie Mac and Martin Lawrence. When I’ve heard them on talking-head shows, or heard stories about them having dinner together and chatting at speed, that’s the thing that interests me.

Making people laugh is number two. Being around people who make me laugh is number one.

You’re part of the working class. What challenges have you faced to become a comedian as a direct result of being working class and how are you overcoming them?


Generally speaking, I benefit from being working class and having an accent.

But there are times when certain working-class subjects are expected of you, while chatting about books seems less interesting to a middle-class audience.

They want me to talk about having a fight in a mine while drunk.

Luckily for me, I have a business, and that affords me the ability to put on a show. But if I didn’t, Edinburgh might be totally off the table for me.

You have been named as “one to watch” and also won King Gong at the Comedy Store, Comedy Knockout and semi-finalist of Leicester Square New Comedian of the Year.
How does that feel, has this helped your career and where do you see your career going next?

I don’t think any of those things have done anything for my fledgling comedy career, per se, but they do win me the congratulations of my peers.

Doing them puts you in a situation where you’re tested against other people who are well received, and I think that makes you want to do better. You are the sum of the company you keep at the end of the day.

I would say I have been overlooked, but I would also say that others seem to be better at the admin, and at this stage, that’s what gets you booked regularly at the harder-to-get spots.

I’m hoping I’ll get so good one day that I become undeniable. But that’s something that will take a lot of work.

Where can people follow you on social media?

 My Instagram is @liammcgoughtreeguy

My TikTok is @liamlol

Find details for tickets to Liam McGough’s show here on the EdFringe website:

https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/two-guys-one-gcse

#Interview by Lou – What does Comedian, Robyn Perkins and Psychologist, Dr. Keenan have in common? Free #EdFringe show – Shrink Wrapped A Psychologist Analysis Live On Stage. @lhcomedy #Hoots #Apex #WhatsOnEdinburgh #ShrinkWrapped #Comedy #Psychology #RobynPerkins #DrCarolyneKeenan #ComedyForTheCurious #LifeHacks

Interview hosted by Louise Cannon – Bookmarks and Stages with
Comedian, Robyn Perkins
and Psychologist, Dr. Carolyne Keenan

Shrink Wrapped: A Psychologist Analysis Live On Stage

Hoot 1 at Hoots @ The Apex
Grassmarket
9pm until 30th August

Welcome, Robyn Perkins and Dr. Carolyne Keenan to Bookmarks and Stages.
Thank you for your time in answering all my questions in an in-depth, fascinating manner.

Robyn Perkins is a multi-award winning comedian with hit shows such as Comedy for the Curious. She is said to like investigating life. She tackles big emotionally charged subjects and brings it back to the audience with relatable humour and anecdotes.

Dr. Carolyne Keenan is a fully-qualified, licenced, registered psychologist who is founder and clinical director @ Lotus Psychology Ltd. She has also featured on BBC Radio 1 in programmes such as the popular, Life Hacks, The Independent, Psychology Today and more…

The idea of bringing comedians on-stage together in a group therapy type of scenario, with a psychologist really analysing them, sounds a fascinating and original show. It’s a pleasure to interview you both about this, covering what you hope audiences will get from this, what psychologists really think of clients and so much more… The answers truly are fascinating and insightful.
Firstly, we will check out the synopsis and then on to the Q&A before details on where you can catch Shrink Wrapped in Edinburgh.

Ever been deep in a therapy session and gone: I want to know what the hell she’s thinking? Well now’s your chance… with comedians in the hot seat. Join award-winning comedian Robyn Perkins and real-life psychologists (Dr Ruchi Sinha, Dr Carolyne Keenan or Dr Edel McGlanaghy) for the most entertaining therapy session you’ll ever witness. Guest comedians perform their best material, before submitting themselves to gentle psychological probing in front of a live audience. Don’t worry, we’ve got more safe words than a BDSM convention.

Without further ado, let’s begin with the questions I have for you:

  1. Robyn, What gave you the idea to have a comedy show around the topic of therapy and then add in real psychologists into the mix?

It actually started in Adelaide when I had one of our psychologists on Comedy for the Curious (my science comedy panel show,  also in Edinburgh). During the show, the psychologist (Dr. Ruchi Sinha) just read all of the comedian guests, from a psychological point of view. After the show, we chatted about how that would make an incredible show on its own, and the raw idea was born. From there, I have developed the idea into a full-blown panel show, developing the structure into what it is today. 

  1. Dr. Keenan, how did you become involved in this show and how is it being in the mix of a comedy show and at the same time giving your psychological opinion in front of a live audience?

I was invited to be part of Shrink Wrapped because I had already been a guest expert on Robyn’s show Comedy for the Curious.  We had been working together for a while when Robyn came up with the concept for Shrink Wrapped.  I’ve always believed psychology shouldn’t just stay in clinic rooms or textbooks, it should be part of everyday life. When Robyn described the show and the concept of combining comedy with psychological insights, I thought it was brilliant.

Being part of a comedy show is exciting and I love meeting all the comedians. It’s different from my therapy work but it uses the same skills- listening deeply, noticing patterns, and reflecting back what I hear. The difference is that on stage, we’re exploring these insights with humour, warmth, and openness in front of a live audience. I love that it makes psychology accessible and fun, while also highlighting the very real human truths that comedy often touches on.

  1. Dr. Keenan, can you give an example of what do psychologists think of their clients, since that is a little of whats billed in the show that makes it sound so interesting?

People often wonder what psychologists really think about their clients. The reality is, we’re human and often I’m thinking very similar things to what you might be:

  • I wish they could see how great they are.
  • They really need to get rid of this idiot, theyd be so much happier.
  • I wish they would focus less on how much their favourite influencer has helped them and give the sessions we have been having some credit!

In Shrink Wrapped, the audience gets a playful glimpse into how psychologists analyse behaviour and language. For example, a comedian might make a joke about not feeling good enough growing up and I might explore whether that contributed to their attraction to a job where they are constantly seeking immediate and positive approval from an audience. It’s done with kindness and humour though, not judgement, which is what makes it so engaging.

  1. Robyn, Shrink Wrapped has done hugely well at the Adelaide Fringe having sell-out shows. What can people in Edinburgh expect and what do you hope they take away with them at the end of the show?

The concept of Shrink Wrapped seems to intrigue most people, but I think it is the structure behind it that gives the show it’s depth. I have worked with a few psychologists to refine a list of topics we explore across the shows (eg. Conflict, Trust, Romantic Relationships, etc.).  Each show tackles a few of the topics in a group therapy session between 3 comedians and a psychologist.

Because the discussion is based in real therapy concepts, the show inherently flips between serious and funny, emotional and light hearted. Equally, I have chosen comedians who are, by nature, quite vulnerable on stage so the chat will occasionally reach emotional moments.  However, with 3 comedians on stage at one time, this also means we are desperate to crack a joke if it gets too intense. It is the ebb and the flow of these moments that really makes the show special.

Additionally, since we are talking about real events and real people, we have found that audiences relate to at least one of the comedians on stage, in an ‘I do that’ or ‘that’s me’ kind of way. We are hoping that this can also spark conversations about mental health in a positive and fun way.  I know using humour to explore mental health is not a new concept,  but watching 3 comedians talk about their mental health in the form of a live therapy session is new territory we are excited to be exploring.

This year in Edinburgh, we are doing the Free Fringe (free entry with donations after the show), and while you cannot book ahead, based on feedback we have had about the show, we are expecting to be just as busy as Adelaide.  

  1. Dr. Keenan, what do you hope the audience will have learnt and take away with them by the end of the show?

I hope the audience leaves with:

  1. A sense of relief – realising we all have quirks and struggles, and humour can be a brilliant way to explore them.
  2. A new curiosity about themselves and others – understanding that behaviour always makes sense when you look deeper.
  3. A feeling of connection – seeing comedians open up about their lives helps us feel less alone in our own messy human experiences.

Ultimately, I want people to feel entertained, uplifted, and inspired to reflect on their own lives with more compassion and humour.

  1. For both Dr. Keenan and Robyn, how did you convince 8 comedians to be on stage doing some form of group therapy with 3 psychologists present. Was this an easy or hard task to do?

Dr. KEENAN: I think comedians are naturally curious and brave, they’re used to being vulnerable on stage and they quite like talking about themselves!  When they realised this show wasn’t about picking them apart but about exploring their material and personalities in a fun, supportive way, they were on board.

Also, Robyn’s energy and the framing of the show as science comedy rather than “group therapy” helped. It wasn’t about fixing them – it was about exploring some of their material through a psychological lens. That made it feel safe and exciting rather than threatening.

ROBYN PERKINS: Similar to what Dr. Keenan has said – as a comedian we love talking about ourselves! But more than that, comedians are curious by nature. I have been overwhelmed by the number of comedians who have asked to be on the show. It’s been fantastic!  No convincing necessary!

  1. For both Robyn and Dr. Keenan, what did you both learn from doing this type of show that you would take forward into your careers moving forward and would you do something similar again in the future?

Dr. KEENAN: For me, it reinforced how powerful humour is in making psychological concepts accessible. People learn best when they’re engaged and laughing. I also learnt that psychology belongs everywhere – not just therapy rooms but in arts, media, and entertainment.  I regularly take part in BBC Radio One’s Sunday evening show Life Hacks where we take topics that impact the listeners and explore the psychology behind them.  We often have call in questions so I’m comfortable thinking on my feet and making these insights accessible and actionable but doing it in front of a live audience on stage has helped me practice those skills and feel even more comfortable with it.

I’d absolutely love to do something similar again. Bringing psychology to audiences in creative ways is something I’m deeply passionate about, and Shrink Wrapped has been a perfect example of how that can work- long may the show continue!

ROBYN PERKINS: I have learned I probably need to do more therapy! I have actually learned a lot about myself, both from comments about me and my set, but I’ve also learned things from watching others. I am hoping this show continues far into the future.

  1. What made you choose Edinburgh Fringe for Shrink Wrapped and what are your plans for where this show can go next?

I go to the Fringe every year, and do the global festival circuit, so it was a no brainer to bring it to EdFringe! Through at least December, we are performing monthly at Top Secret Comedy Club in London at the moment. We will bring the show back to Australia next year.  But also, we are looking to potentially start touring the show around theatres and the rest of the UK. The possibilities are endless!

  1. Where can people follow you on social media?

Dr. CAROLYNE KEENAN

You can find me on Instagram @drcarolynekeenan

Linked In (2) Dr Carolyne Keenan | LinkedIn

My website is www.carolynekeenan.co.uk

ROBYN PERKINS

www.robynperkins.com

Instagram @robynHperkins

Further Details about Shrink Wrapped:

Shrink Wrapped – A Psychologist Analysis of Comedians Live On Stage

#Interview with Golden Girls and Gilmore Girls writer, Stan Zimmerman about suicide prevention play Right Before I go showing at Edinburgh Fringe Festival #RightBeforeIGo #suicideprevention #GilmoreGirls #goldengirls #wellbeing #theatre #play #EdinburghFringeFestival #EdFringe

Interview with Stan Zimmerman
on Right before I go

interview by Louise Cannon

First of all, I am humbled to have the opportunity to do this interview with Stan Zimmerman, writer of Golden Girls and Gilmore Girls and on a much talked about and very important subject matter. Right Before I Go is a suicide prevention play. Do read on, he is very serious about this and has answered questions informatively, sensitively and it’s interesting. It is also worth noting his show comes with support and from what I’ve read, it sounds a very well thought out and responsibly put together show for audiences.

He says “I decided to create a play in the vein of The Vagina Monologues, easily produced with actors on stools, reading the script from music stands. My hope is that this will create much needed discussion about a very complicated issue,” said writer and actor, Stan Zimmerman.

Let’s warmly welcome, Stan Zimmerman to Bookmarks and Stages.
pics are Stan Zimmerman (writer and actor) Abigail Morris (director), Wendie Malick (Shrinking, Young Sheldon), Emily Kuroda (Gilmore Girls). Check them out and then let’s begin the interview.

1. Stan, you are bringing your show Right Before You Go, a suicide prevention play, driven by the suicide of your real life friend, to the Edinburgh Fringe.

Who or what inspired you to bring the play from NYC to Edinburgh?

“Having one of my plays performed at the famed Edinburgh Fringe Festival has always been on my bucket list. But it felt like a far off dream. It only became reality after our very successful UK industry reading of it this past March at the Soho Theatre. I was honored to share the stage with a stellar cast including Vanessa Williams, Matt Henry, Iz Hesketh and Olly Alexander. The Pleasance Theatre came to that reading and invited me to Fringe for the entire month. We’re hoping to bring the play back to London after Fringe in September, which is World Suicide Prevention Awarness Month.”

2. In the UK, suicide is starting to gain awareness. Why do you feel it is so important to talk about suicide on stage and in the hope of preventing it.

“Theatre can be a powerful tool. I know firsthand. Finding my tribe on stage saved my life.  I want to end the shame surrounding the subject of suicide and talking about it, in this forum is a start. Especially with young people, which is why we’re in discussion tour this play in schools throughout the UK in Spring 2027.”

3. You use real suicide notes of celebrities, veterans, bullied teens, those identifying as LGBTQ+ and those who have experienced mental health issues.

How did you go about getting permission to use letters that are so raw and sensitive?

“All of these notes are in the public domain. They’ve been posted, broadcast or released by family members. Usually with the intent of saving other individuals from suffering in silence. Something I learned when first creating this play, was that newspapers used to regularly publish suicide notes.

5. Right Before I Go is followed by a talkback with a mental health professional.

For those going to the performance, how does that work in practice?

“I made it part of the agreement when licensing my play from TRWshowsUK, that you must do a Talk Back after the show with a local mental health professional. I often find that part of the show, is the most gripping. After I’ve been so open and honest in the play, audience members sometimes reveal feelings and stories that they’ve kept hidden for years. Even decades.”

6. What do you hope the play will achieve by the time people are leaving the auditorium?

“I already know that this play has saved lives since we debuted at the Hollywood Fringe Festival in 2015. Being in Edinburgh, i hope the piece is introduced to the global theatre community. The high suicide rate knows no boudaries of countries. This subject must be addressed through a worldwide lens. On a personal level, I hope that audiences leave the theatre and check in with their friends to see if they’re doing okay.” 

7. How do you and others in the  star-studded cast from Gilmor Girls, Young Sheldon look after own wellbeing after rehearsals and performing in-front of audiences, in-particular after this play which carries such a necessary, important but emotional topic.

“I get asked that question a lot during our Talk Backs, because it’s obviously still so emotional for me to talk about losing my friend to suicide in the play. But it’s also extremely empowering to know that using my craft can make a difference in other people’s lives. Of course, I’ve only done the play two days in a row in the past. I’ll be performing in twenty-four shows in Edinburgh. So if you see me staggering through town, buy me a pint!” 

8. Money will be raised for SL24: Unlocke the Light Foundation, based in Delaware. Can you tell us more about this non-profit organisation?

SL24: UnLocke the Light Foundation is a Delaware-based nonprofit organization with a threefold mission: to educate, assist, and support young people on their mental health journey. For more information on their educational and Peer24 Support programs, please visit www.unlockethelight.com. I had the privilege of meeting Chris Locke during a mini-East Coast US tour starring Virginia Madsen and some “Gilmore Girls” cast members. He lost his son to suicide and created this amazing organization. He said he plans to come to Edinburgh and is a very eloquent speaker on this subject.” 

Tickets can be purchased and further synopsis looked at on the official website for The Pleasance at Edinburgh Fringe Festival here: https://www.pleasance.co.uk/event/right-i-go

#EdFringe Interview with award-winning comedian Tom Little on new show – Tom Little in His Comfort Zone @thisistomlittle @TheFreeFringe #comedy #interview by Lou

Interview with Award Winning Comedian Tom Little on his show –
Tom Little In His Comfort Zone

Interview by Louise Cannon

Genre: COMEDY
68b carte blanche! at PBH’s Free Fringe @ Voodoo Rooms
8 – 30 Aug 19:20 1 hour
Strictly 18+
see EdFringe ticket details at the end of the interview.

Tom Little has been a comedian for over a decade and performed for 10 years at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival to much critical acclaim. This year he focuses on his hot topics such as masculinity, the “manosphere,” male loneliness and his comfort zone. His answers are revealing and thoughtful about these subjects and interestingly, how things can change as a comedian has an idea that sparks a slightly different one that is then the one to go with. There is a bit of light, clever humour in the interview as well as honesty and thoughtfulness, making it a fascinating, insightful read. He also has future plans and places you can check out his comedy for yourself. You can find links to that and how to book your tickets after the interview.

Tom Little is from Cumbria, in the North of England. He won the 2015 Leicester Mercury Comedian of the Year, and his 2018 Edinburgh show was nominated for the Amused Moose Comedy Award. He wrote and starred in the online sitcom ‘Don’t Overthink It,’ which won ‘Best Comedy’ at the 2023 NYC Web Fest awards, and his film ‘Gurning to Win’ is nominated for ‘Best Short Form Documentary’ at the 2026 Broadcast Digital Awards. He was on BBC Radio 4 for five minutes twelve years ago. 

Unique is an appallingly overused word. But you know it when you see it. I see it in Tom Little.’ **** – Kate Copstick, The Scotsman

His fast-paced stand-up style is replete with surreal detours and promises an hour of pure fun. Catch him on his way to stardom.’ – Rachael Healy, The i Paper

Let’s warmly welcome Tom Little to Bookmarks and Stages and I also thank him for discovering my blog and getting in touch:

1. You’ve been a comedian for 13 years, performed at 10 Edinburgh Fringes and won awards. Who or what inspired you to be a comedian?

This is mean but before I started comedy I saw a comedian on television and thought he was really crap. And that was really inspiring because I thought ‘if someone as unfunny as him get on television then it must be really easy to become a professional comedian. I don’t even need to be good. I just need to not be worse than this unfunny loser.’ But 13 years on, he’s still on telly more than I am. So that’s me told.  

2. Your new show focuses on masculinity, including Andrew Tate and the manosphere. What do you make of the manosphere and how do you turn that into comedy and at the same time get your message out about this serious topic?

Andrew Tate was something I was thinking about when I was putting the show together, but in the end I didn’t write any jokes about him and don’t mention him in the show at all. I reckon he probably gets enough attention as it is anyway.  

Instead my show has ended up being more about the way men are, more generally. Or the way men are expected to be, and probably have been for centuries. I found that funnier. I’m not just talking about weirdos on the internet. I’m talking about ‘normal’ men. The men in my audience, or the men reading this interview, or some other men. You know men. You’ve met them before. You know who I mean.  


3. Loneliness is also a much talked about topic and one which you cover.

What do you think might help this epidemic in the male population?

I saw the phrase ‘male loneliness epidemic’ online a while ago and thought that was interesting. I’m sure there lots of lonely women too but lonely men get more media attention. They must have better PR.  

It’s easy to be sarcastic about ‘male loneliness’ but I think, across the genders, there’s a lot more loneliness than there used to be and that’s worth talking about. Technology has changed our lives, community has broken down and we’re all a lot more likely to spend our lives alone in a room looking at a screen all day instead of with other people in a pub or a church or wherever it is people used to go in the good old days. We’re not meant to live like this.  

I’m not sure how to fix everything but I suppose a good start would be if everyone left the house and met up in a specific place where other people were. Like a comedy show for example. Or more specifically, my comedy show. If everyone just went to the Edinburgh Fringe and saw my comedy show that’d probably solve the loneliness epidemic. And a lot of the rest of the world’s problems too, I reckon.  

4. You invite people to enter your comfort zone. What is your comfort zone in relation to your show and how do you show this and the, perhaps stepping out of it in your show?

The title of my show is ‘Tom Little in His Comfort Zone.’ I chose that title before I knew what the show was going to be about. I chose it just because I’ve been doing stand-up for years and should surely know what I’m doing by now, but I’m aware that I still look like I don’t. I was very nervous when I started doing my first gigs 13 years ago, and all these years later, however confident I feel, I still seem to be locked into the speech pattern and body language of a nervous man trying not to have a breakdown. And I know that’s a bit odd for the audience. So I thought I’d call my show ‘Tom Little in His Comfort Zone’ just to reassure the audience that I’ve done this before and there’s no need to worry. We’ll see if it works.

 5. At the top of your synopsis, you ask the question, “are men ok?” You’re a man and I am going to assume you’re one of the better ones. But what is happening with men and how do you convince people that not all men are in the manosphere and do you try to in your show?

Haha. Thank you but I promise you I don’t go around calling myself one of the better ones. If you’re talking about any social issue in comedy I think there’s a danger that you can come across as a bit preachy if you’re too earnest with it. Or like you’re trying to show off about what a good person you are.  I don’t want to do that. I want people to laugh, not applaud because they think I’ve made a good point. So if I feel there’s any danger of me sounding like a really great guy I have to balance it out with a bit about what an arsehole I am. Really I just want to be judged on how funny the show is. But hopefully I say something interesting at some point too.  

I don’t think people need to be convinced that not all men are in manosphere and I’m certainly not trying to restore the reputation of men in my show. I don’t think that needs doing. I think you can talk about terrible men without people assuming that all men are terrible. But a lot of things about being a man are just ridiculous more than anything, so that seemed like a fair subject for a comedy show. To be honest, the only reason I’m doing a show about men is because I am one myself and I know a lot of people are men and even people who aren’t men have usually at least met a man, so I figured it’d be relatable.  

6. What’s next for you show or your next project?

After the Fringe I’ll go back to doing stand-up at comedy clubs around the country. And I want to do more online comedy sketches this year. I did loads during lockdown but haven’t done much online recently. It’s something I need to get back in to. I have a feeling the internet is going to be big. Follow me on all platforms! 

7. Where can people follow you/your show ‘Tom Little in His Comfort Zone’?

I’m @thisistomlittle on all social media. All my best stuff is at youtube.com/tomlittle 
so I’d really appreciate people subscribing to my YouTube channel as well. Thanks.  

Check out ticket details here: https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/tom-little-in-his-comfort-zone

#Interview with Golden Girls and Gilmore Girls writer, Stan Zimmerman about suicide prevention play Right Before I go showing at Edinburgh Fringe Festival #RightBeforeIGo #suicideprevention #GilmoreGirls #goldengirls #wellbeing #theatre #play #EdinburghFringeFestival #EdFringe

Interview with Stan Zimmerman
on Right before I go

interview by Louise Cannon

First of all, I am humbled to have the opportunity to do this interview with Stan Zimmerman, writer of Golden Girls and Gilmore Girls and on a much talked about and very important subject matter. Right Before I Go is a suicide prevention play. Do read on, he is very serious about this and has answered questions informatively, sensitively and it’s interesting. It is also worth noting his show comes with support and from what I’ve read, it sounds a very well thought out and responsibly put together show for audiences.

He says “I decided to create a play in the vein of The Vagina Monologues, easily produced with actors on stools, reading the script from music stands. My hope is that this will create much needed discussion about a very complicated issue,” said writer and actor, Stan Zimmerman.

Let’s warmly welcome, Stan Zimmerman to Bookmarks and Stages.
pics are Stan Zimmerman (writer and actor) Abigail Morris (director), Wendie Malick (Shrinking, Young Sheldon), Emily Kuroda (Gilmore Girls). Check them out and then let’s begin the interview.

1. Stan, you are bringing your show Right Before You Go, a suicide prevention play, driven by the suicide of your real life friend, to the Edinburgh Fringe.

Who or what inspired you to bring the play from NYC to Edinburgh?

“Having one of my plays performed at the famed Edinburgh Fringe Festival has always been on my bucket list. But it felt like a far off dream. It only became reality after our very successful UK industry reading of it this past March at the Soho Theatre. I was honored to share the stage with a stellar cast including Vanessa Williams, Matt Henry, Iz Hesketh and Olly Alexander. The Pleasance Theatre came to that reading and invited me to Fringe for the entire month. We’re hoping to bring the play back to London after Fringe in September, which is World Suicide Prevention Awarness Month.”

2. In the UK, suicide is starting to gain awareness. Why do you feel it is so important to talk about suicide on stage and in the hope of preventing it.

“Theatre can be a powerful tool. I know firsthand. Finding my tribe on stage saved my life.  I want to end the shame surrounding the subject of suicide and talking about it, in this forum is a start. Especially with young people, which is why we’re in discussion tour this play in schools throughout the UK in Spring 2027.”

3. You use real suicide notes of celebrities, veterans, bullied teens, those identifying as LGBTQ+ and those who have experienced mental health issues.

How did you go about getting permission to use letters that are so raw and sensitive?

“All of these notes are in the public domain. They’ve been posted, broadcast or released by family members. Usually with the intent of saving other individuals from suffering in silence. Something I learned when first creating this play, was that newspapers used to regularly publish suicide notes.

5. Right Before I Go is followed by a talkback with a mental health professional.

For those going to the performance, how does that work in practice?

“I made it part of the agreement when licensing my play from TRWshowsUK, that you must do a Talk Back after the show with a local mental health professional. I often find that part of the show, is the most gripping. After I’ve been so open and honest in the play, audience members sometimes reveal feelings and stories that they’ve kept hidden for years. Even decades.”

6. What do you hope the play will achieve by the time people are leaving the auditorium?

“I already know that this play has saved lives since we debuted at the Hollywood Fringe Festival in 2015. Being in Edinburgh, i hope the piece is introduced to the global theatre community. The high suicide rate knows no boudaries of countries. This subject must be addressed through a worldwide lens. On a personal level, I hope that audiences leave the theatre and check in with their friends to see if they’re doing okay.” 

7. How do you and others in the  star-studded cast from Gilmor Girls, Young Sheldon look after own wellbeing after rehearsals and performing in-front of audiences, in-particular after this play which carries such a necessary, important but emotional topic.

“I get asked that question a lot during our Talk Backs, because it’s obviously still so emotional for me to talk about losing my friend to suicide in the play. But it’s also extremely empowering to know that using my craft can make a difference in other people’s lives. Of course, I’ve only done the play two days in a row in the past. I’ll be performing in twenty-four shows in Edinburgh. So if you see me staggering through town, buy me a pint!” 

8. Money will be raised for SL24: Unlocke the Light Foundation, based in Delaware. Can you tell us more about this non-profit organisation?

SL24: UnLocke the Light Foundation is a Delaware-based nonprofit organization with a threefold mission: to educate, assist, and support young people on their mental health journey. For more information on their educational and Peer24 Support programs, please visit www.unlockethelight.com. I had the privilege of meeting Chris Locke during a mini-East Coast US tour starring Virginia Madsen and some “Gilmore Girls” cast members. He lost his son to suicide and created this amazing organization. He said he plans to come to Edinburgh and is a very eloquent speaker on this subject.” 

Tickets can be purchased and further synopsis looked at on the official website for The Pleasance at Edinburgh Fringe Festival here: https://www.pleasance.co.uk/event/right-i-go

#Interview with award-winning Argentine theatre-maker Nicolás Perez Costa on Shakespeare’s Richard III and more… by Lou #CockpitTheatre #NicolasPerezCosta #Shakespeare #RichardIII #Theatre

Nicolás Perez Costa is an award-winning theatre maker and I had the privilege of interviewing him about his latest play, a re-interpretation of Shakespeare’s Richard III, his respect of original works, his respect for Shakespeare, his use of bold staging and movement, what inspired him to enter the theatrical world and into so many roles from director to actor and more…

Richard III received multiple Off Theatre Award nominations. These were for best Best Play, Best Director, Best Actor, and Best Set Design.

Performed in the round and accompanied by live percussion, this physically driven reinterpretation of Shakespeare’s notorious King Richard III places the audience directly inside a brutal and decaying universe where power is fought through bodies, rhythm, and violence.

Let’s give a warm welcome Nicolás Perez Costa to Bookmarks and Stages, where he has answered questions comprehensively with fascinating details.

What attracts you to Shakespeare’s works in general and at what point in your life
did you become interested?


Shakespeare represents, for me, the perfect union of an impeccable dramatic structure, the
beauty and ingenuity of his poetic language and verse, and a vision of the human being that
is, at times, compassionate and, at others, brutally honest. That combination can only
produce the sense of hypnosis we experience when we read his work or watch it performed.
My interest in Shakespeare began when I was a teenager, reading his plays in literature
classes, at first simply because they were part of the curriculum. Gradually, I found that his
writing pulled me out of my chair and invited me to try his speeches, to play with them, to
imagine them. I remember classmates who considered Shakespeare old-fashioned, seeing
his language as something distant from our time. But even then, at a very young age, I felt
the urgency and relevance of his characters, and I was already imagining them inhabiting
different worlds, or existing within the anachronistic universes that were taking shape in my
own imagination.

What fascinates you about Plantagenet King Richard III in particular?

The first time I read Richard III, I was fascinated by the way Richard draws the audience into
his bloody and sinister plans with such naturalness and, I would even say, an irreverent
charisma. The idea of a character with absolutely no limits in the pursuit of his ambitions
captivated me.
To me, those ambitions are born from resentment: the resentment of not having been born
with a body or into a position that would allow him to be loved or recognised. Watching that
resentment transform into a ruthless and bloody plan, and then seeing everything eventually
collapse, feels like a reminder that what is achieved through evil ultimately destroys itself.
This is exactly the kind of story I feel most connected to telling. It reflects the kind of
questions I want theatre to ask and the kind of world I hope it can inspire us to build. I love
history, particularly the histories of England and France, but when I approach plays like this, I
move beyond the historical facts. What interests me is literature’s ability to reveal a deeper
truth: to hold a mirror up to our own reality, or to imagine the world as it could one day
become.

You have created a physical reinterpretation of Shakespeare’s notorious King
Richard III, placing the audience directly inside a brutal and decaying universe. How
have you achieved this and what inspired you to go down the physical route of acting
to tell this story?


My career began in musical theatre. Then, in my mid-twenties, I met a director in Argentina
who introduced me to classical theatre, and above all, to her love of Shakespeare and
Chekhov. From that moment on, I couldn’t help but bring those two worlds together. I have
dedicated my career to bringing the truth and emotional depth of classical theatre into
musical theatre, and, in turn, bringing the physical language of musical theatre into classical
texts.

When I speak about musical theatre, I don’t mean high-energy musicals. I mean the
integration of the body, the voice and emotional truth. I believe that what is expressed
through the body reaches the audience in a direct and instinctive way. They don’t need to analyse every word or fully understand everything that is happening intellectually. Somehow,they recognise that whatever is happening in the actor’s body is also happening within their own.

You’ve re-interpreted the play using bold staging and movement, making it dystopian to show its hard-hitting themes of power and manipulation. What are the challenges in re-imagining a play that’s centuries old and creating a play that’s both recognisable but fresh for a modern audience, whilst also being sensitive to the original piece?

My respect for the original work comes naturally because I have deep respect for literature and for history. I respect the people who came before me, both in life and in this profession. I respect tradition, and I believe that if a work has survived for centuries, it is because of its extraordinary mastery.At the same time, I believe that re-imagining a play and giving it a language and a rhythm that speak to a different audience is also a way of respecting its author. Shakespeare wrote this play centuries ago for an audience that lived at a completely different pace, listen differently, and experienced theatre in a completely different way. I don’t believe that if Shakespeare, or any of the great playwrights of the past, were writing today, they would necessarily write in exactly the same way. The ultimate purpose of theatre is not simply toexpress what we think, but to communicate it to the person who is listening.I firmly believe that theatre does not belong to those who make it, but to those who watch itand experience it. The challenge is always to create a production that can be understood even by someone who would not normally choose to see Shakespeare. Shakespeare, like all great playwrights, needs theatre to remain alive. He needs new audiences. As Chekhov says in The Seagull, “new forms are needed.” For me, the artist’s constant search is for a theatrical language that keeps audiences close to theatre, and encourages those who have never entered a theatre before to come in.

What does showing your play in the round add to the actors’ performances and audiences’ experiences?

I think it’s a fascinating choice, especially at a time when theatre is constantly searching for new forms. The audience is no longer simply a distant, objective observer of what is happening. Instead, they become part of the event itself. The audience doesn’t just watch a character looking at something they can also see how and from where that character is looking. In scenes where ten characters gather to discuss issue, I love the feeling that the audience becomes the eleventh character. Without speaking or intervening, their physical presence changes the energy of the scene. That transforms the way they experience the play, but it also transforms us as actors. Our responsibility is no longer simply to direct our performance towards the audience’s gaze, but to embrace their presence and draw them into the fiction itself.

Who or what inspired you to become an actor, director and playwright and what’s it
like to now have Off Theatre Award nominations for Best Play, Best Director, Best
Actor, and Best Set Design for your work?


To be honest, I like to define myself simply as a theatre-maker, because throughout my
career I have worked in many different roles and learned this craft from many different
perspectives. Becoming an actor, director and playwright wasn’t something I planned—it was the natural consequence of my curiosity, of what fascinated me, and, above all, of the
support my parents gave me when I was very young, encouraging me to follow my instincts.

When I was a child, my aunt was an actress. At school, I had teachers who nurtured my
interests, and I even started little theatre groups during breaks, directing my classmates long before I knew what directing really meant. But without question, my life changed when I met my first great mentor, Pepe Cibrián, in Argentina when I was fifteen. Some encounters are planned, but you can never imagine how profoundly they will shape your life. Mine changed from that moment on.

One day I realised that my life was theatre, and that it could never have been anything else.

There is a beautiful idea that vocation is not something we choose, but something that
chooses us. If we ignore that calling, the consequence is an existential emptiness. I never
really felt I had another option. I have always been who I am, and I have fought to develop that identity.

Receiving these nominations, and later winning Best Play, Best Set Design and Best
Leading Actor, together with previous nominations in Argentina and the José Estruch Award in Spain two years ago for Juana la Loca, feels like a confirmation that the path I chose is recognised by others as meaningful and worthwhile. Those awards don’t give meaning to the choices I made in the past, but they do give strength to the choices I make today. They allow me to look back and realise that, sometimes, after spending years swimming against the current, the current eventually begins to flow with you rather than against you.

What’s next for your play or career?

The Madrid cast will continue touring the production across Spain. Here at The Cockpit, we will present the play with our UK cast, and we hope to continue finding new venues where both productions can keep growing.
Although they share the same artistic vision and the
same origins, they have naturally become two very different productions.

Theatre is never completed by the director alone, it is completed by the actors, and I always try to remain open and flexible to what each company brings to the work.

When I return to Spain, I will continue performing Juana la Loca, which I have been
performing for the past nine years, and Dos Tronos, Dos Reinas, which has been on stage
for the last two. I will also continue leading my acting school, IFAM, where I constantly
develop new productions with my students. One of my greatest passions is creating
opportunities for emerging artists and teaching them the self-management skills that allow them to build their own careers, rather than feeling that their future depends entirely on others.

Looking ahead, I also have a deep personal wish: that the next role I encounter as an actor will be Hamlet, so I can continue exploring this same theatrical language while discovering an entirely new fictional world.