Make Good – The Post Office Scandal
A new musical by Jeanie O’Hare (Book) and Jim Fortune (Music & Lyrics). Directed by Elle While. Co-produced with New Perspectives.
Production Photos – Andrew Billington

What a privilege to interview Jeanie O’Hare about an original and powerful musical about the Post Office Scandal, that’s affected so many lives. Some people who had their livelihoods affected by this scandal have contributed to the creation of this production.
First, let’s discover more about what the musical is about and a little about what is said about the theatre companies, Pentabus and New Perspectives and then let’s welcome Jeanie O’Hare to my blog with her fascinating answers to my questions. At the end of the interview, discover where this musical is touring and how you can purchase tickets. Please note, I am not affiliated to ticket sales or the companies.

Synopsis
Over twenty years a silent tragedy has unfolded in the heart of our communities. Entirely innocent sub-postmasters had their lives torn apart and faced bankruptcy, isolation and jail for crimes that were never committed, for debts that never existed.
Directly informed by conversations with affected sub-postmasters, Make Good dives into this most local of stories, capturing the raw emotions, the bewilderment and the unbreakable bond of faith and family that were put to the test. Experience the astonishing resilience of entire communities as lives were destroyed in a scandal that isn’t over yet…
“[Pentabus is] One of the most important theatre companies in the country” The Daily Telegraph “New Perspectives has taken on an exciting challenge that proves rural touring companies can produce provocative work of national and international significance” edfringereview.com
Welcome and thank you Jeanie O’Hare for taking time out of your busy schedules to answer some questions about your new musical about such an important subject.
- There’s been a critically acclaimed TV drama and of course wide coverage on the news and in newspapers about the Post Office scandal. What inspired you to bring it to the stage in musical form?
We were already working on Make Good when we heard that ITV had commissioned their amazing drama. We knew that what we were doing was something very different, it has different ambitions and hopefully a different effect. There is a power in sitting in an audience and hearing the same gasp, the same quiet tears falling from a stranger beside you, and then when you have absorbed the story into the core of you, being able to vocalise your support for the Sub-postmasters on your feet at the end. We always conceived of it as a community project which would tap into the well of feeling in communities about the damage that has been done. An underground explosion happened in the heart of British life and the reverberations will be felt for generations. I feel this is just one of a number of projects that will be created. There will be films and operas and songs and plays.


- What influence do you think your musical has in showing people about the Post Office scandal?
Artists just need to keep the story alive in the best way they know. This is a tragedy and the best place for tragedy is theatre. I do believe that a show like this can have a political as well as a cultural impact.

- You’ve done thorough research and asked real people who were/are directly affected by the Post Office Scandal, did you find they were forthcoming and what are those affected saying about your musical?
We have been very moved by the responses of Sub-postmasters. We invited them in to readings and rehearsals. We asked for feedback on accuracy and emotional pitch at every stage of development. Their main response has been ‘keep going, this is needed.’ We are meeting up with Sub-postmasters on the tour so we will see then what they think of the full production.
- You say you have humour amongst this heartfelt musical. How important do you think humour amongst life-changing tragic circumstances is?
You cannot go into the dark, you cannot go into the depths of tragedy without humour. It is essential. There is power in being able to laugh at a tyrant, or at a ridiculously unfair situation, it gives you objectivity and perspective on the absurdity. Humour also accentuates the sorrow. If we laugh together we give ourselves greater permission to cry together.

- What do you hope people will take away from the musical?
Hopefully we can replenish our well of shared compassion. Theatre is where we feel compassion in a sustained way, for a concentrated hour or two. It’s the best ‘workout’ for fellow-feeling that we have. We were all there in the Post Office queue when this story was unfolding. These people held our communities up, they were the pillars we lent on. As we made this show over the last three years it became apparent that it can also be a cautionary tale for our technological naivete, the kind we are falling into again with AI.



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