#Interview with comedian Liam McGough on #EdFringe show Two Guys, One GCSE – A Dave Vaughn and Liam McGough Production #JustTheTonic #TheMashHouse #MixItUp #TwoGuysOneGCSE

Interview with Liam McGough

hosted by Bookmarks and Stages –
Louise Cannon

I recently interviewed comedian, Liam McGough, rather timely given there’s a little bit more conversation around the working class. Coincidentally he and I are both of this class. We talked about his comedy show, Two Guys One GCSE. He has an agenda and that is to make people laugh. He has answered questions candidly giving a little bit about his life, the quite frankly strange attitude some middle class audiences have when they see him. We also talk about overcoming challenges and who inspired him. Discover too, whether awards help a performance or not… Ultimately, the show is just about making people laugh, that’s what is most important to him, as you will find out in the interview. He steers away from politics and the like and even his title is described as “a silly play on words”. After the interview, you can find out where to follow him and how you can see his show at Just The Tonic venue – The Mash House, see further details after the interview.

Let’s warmly welcome Liam McGough to Bookmarks and Stages

The name Two Guys One GCSE is a silly play on words, referencing an unwatchable video that went around when I was at school.

It was a unique time, pre-social media, and it had its own sense of humour. The sheer ignorance of that time, when looked back on today, is amusing to me.

It was lads and ladettes, lads’ mags and gossip mags. Greasy curtains for boys and rock-hard hairspray for girls. At the time, being brash and stupid was celebrated.

I was a late developer and really struggled with learning. I was, bottom set for everything and in special classes for disruptive pupils and those falling behind with their learning. Some teachers just thought I had no future, and others sent me out of class without even bothering to check.

But even though I knew I couldn’t keep up academically, I had a strong sense that I was smart and that people just couldn’t see it because my brilliance was lost amongst the 10,000 annoying questions and statements I would make.

To summarise, I was, and am, smart. The style of learning just wasn’t suited to people who think like me. But whether I was a write-off or simply misunderstood, I had the ability to make people laugh — teachers and students alike. That helped me survive school.

So, when trying to make people laugh with an Edinburgh show, what better time to talk about than the period when you developed your sense of humour?

 You aim is to tell jokes and stories with the only agenda to make people laugh. So many comedians look at health or politics, so was this a conscious decision and what led you to this?

My intention is to give people a break from having other people’s views forced upon them. It’s one thing to shine a light on the darkness in this world and another to use the stage as a soapbox.

Too often, comedians think they know best and that it’s their responsibility, as one of the great minds of our time, to “educate” people. Firstly, I think this discredits people’s intelligence, and secondly, how does a group that famously are not considered titans of industry, have the most to say about how that money goes on to be distributed?

My views are very liberal and fall left of centre, but I find it uncomfortable to hear both sides be so sure of everything and say it with such aggression. I’m yet to meet a single person who has read everything there is to read on any one subject.

So, when faced with a world so broken by disagreement, wouldn’t it be nice to take a break for a moment and focus on something we all share: laughter?

 Who or what inspired you to be a stand-up comedian?

This is harder to answer, as many of my peers are like encyclopedias of information about great comics and their material. But the truth is, I’m not a huge consumer of stand-up comedy.

There are people I find funny, but I don’t have specific comedians I particularly follow. I like hearing funny people chat with each other — people like Norm Macdonald, Bernie Mac and Martin Lawrence. When I’ve heard them on talking-head shows, or heard stories about them having dinner together and chatting at speed, that’s the thing that interests me.

Making people laugh is number two. Being around people who make me laugh is number one.

You’re part of the working class. What challenges have you faced to become a comedian as a direct result of being working class and how are you overcoming them?


Generally speaking, I benefit from being working class and having an accent.

But there are times when certain working-class subjects are expected of you, while chatting about books seems less interesting to a middle-class audience.

They want me to talk about having a fight in a mine while drunk.

Luckily for me, I have a business, and that affords me the ability to put on a show. But if I didn’t, Edinburgh might be totally off the table for me.

You have been named as “one to watch” and also won King Gong at the Comedy Store, Comedy Knockout and semi-finalist of Leicester Square New Comedian of the Year.
How does that feel, has this helped your career and where do you see your career going next?

I don’t think any of those things have done anything for my fledgling comedy career, per se, but they do win me the congratulations of my peers.

Doing them puts you in a situation where you’re tested against other people who are well received, and I think that makes you want to do better. You are the sum of the company you keep at the end of the day.

I would say I have been overlooked, but I would also say that others seem to be better at the admin, and at this stage, that’s what gets you booked regularly at the harder-to-get spots.

I’m hoping I’ll get so good one day that I become undeniable. But that’s something that will take a lot of work.

Where can people follow you on social media?

 My Instagram is @liammcgoughtreeguy

My TikTok is @liamlol

Find details for tickets to Liam McGough’s show here on the EdFringe website:

https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/two-guys-one-gcse

Interview Celebrating 12 Years of Murder She Didn’t Write – An Improvised Crime Play at both The Edinburgh Fringe Festival and On Tour Across The UK

Interview with Lizzy Skrzypiec on Critically Acclaimed Long-Running Improvised Play Murder She Didn’t Write

Interview by Louise Cannon – Bookmarks and Stages

Sharpen your murder mystery skills to discover who the murderer is in Murder She Didn’t Write. A fabulously farcical Agatha Christie/Cluedo-esque play where every performance is different. You, the audience are not only in a position to solve the murder, you are also asked for different scenarios within the performance. Skillfully, the cast then creates a mysterious, humorous improvised play.

In 12 years, Murder She Didn’t Write has grown from small to filling larger venues/theatres at not just the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, but on tour across the UK. You can see if this improv crime wave will hit theatres near you after this fascinating and entertaining interview.
Join me as we welcome cast member and co-creator Lizzy Skrzypiec to Bookmarks and Stages.

Your improv show, Murder She Didn’t Write is great fun. I remember reviewing it one year ago. It has become a much talked about and loved show. How did it all begin?

1. Gather round and I’ll tell ye a tale back in 2012 ish where a group of improvisers knew they wanted to make a long form improv show but didn’t know what direction to take it in. We all pitched different ideas to the group: improvised Twilight Zone, improvised Western, improvised Murder Mystery. And there was a fair bit of love for the improvised Western, until we all tried our atrocious American accents and realised a classic Agatha Christie style farcical murder mystery might be better suited to our skill set. But for a while Detective Agatha Crusty could well have been Sheriff Annie Getyourgun.

2. 12 years later and the show has grown from small venues and stages to one of the biggest stages. What does that feel like, seeing that success?

It is very heartening. There is a lot of love that has gone into this show. And it’s a joy working with some of my closest friends. So I’m always so happy to see others revel and enjoy the silliness that brings us as much joy to perform. I’m also surprised that no one has stood up, stopped the show and gone “Hang on! This is just a bunch of people enjoying themselves!” But until they notice I think we will keep on doing it.

3. The majority of the show is improvised and suddenly a show is seamlessly put together with whatever the audience gives you. It’s a skill. Can you reveal a bit how the cast do this?

Sure! The first part of our show is to build the world that the audience has asked for. That is a very powerful part of the show and lays the foundations for the rest of the story. It’s a dangerous time too – because anything too off-piste or weird here has ripples that extend over the next 2 hours (or 70 minutes if its the Fringe version). And we have had our fair share of mistakes – making calls and decisions in the early scenes that we are then stuck with for the whole mystery. 

Once you speak something into existence it’s part of the world. And with that power comes great responsibility. So it’s an art of having fun, being silly, but making sure the foundation of the reality is strong enough for the absolute chaos we will inflict upon it as the mystery takes place.

4. The characters are based on Agatha Christie’s works with a Cluedo-esque take in mystery solving. What inspired you to do this mash-up?

Well I am a TV gameshow producer by trade so I’m sure that’s had an affect on the gamey feel of the show. We try to fulfil the murder mystery genre but in a fun theatrical and accessible way. Consider us the trifle of the mystery desserts tray. A mix of textures and flavours pulled from all sorts of mystery authors and TV shows. And like a trifle we are a bit saucy and maybe a bit boozy too (after the show).

5. If you were to sum-up the show in one or two sentences, what would you say?

It’s the perfect show for someone who has never seen a murder mystery and also a perfect show for someone who loves a murder mystery.

6. You’re back at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. What brings you to the festival and what next for Murder She Didn’t Write?

The Fringe is our spiritual home. We love performing here so much! So our own personal love of the spirit of the fringe has brought us back to the festival over and over again. What’s next? We have many touring dates in the autumn and winter up and down the country and a few on the West End too. I’m sure we’ll be committing various crimes in your areas soon.

Which show time will you choose?

Crime Solve at the Gordon Aikman Theatre, Assembly George Square (full run, 14:15 daily)

What could possibly happen in Edinburgh? Check out details here:

https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/murder-she-didn-t-write

Will this improvised crime sweep into your area?
Check out details here:

https://www.murdershedidntwrite.com/tour-dates



#Interview with Golden Girls and Gilmore Girls writer, Stan Zimmerman about suicide prevention play Right Before I go showing at Edinburgh Fringe Festival #RightBeforeIGo #suicideprevention #GilmoreGirls #goldengirls #wellbeing #theatre #play #EdinburghFringeFestival #EdFringe

Interview with Stan Zimmerman
on Right before I go

interview by Louise Cannon

First of all, I am humbled to have the opportunity to do this interview with Stan Zimmerman, writer of Golden Girls and Gilmore Girls and on a much talked about and very important subject matter. Right Before I Go is a suicide prevention play. Do read on, he is very serious about this and has answered questions informatively, sensitively and it’s interesting. It is also worth noting his show comes with support and from what I’ve read, it sounds a very well thought out and responsibly put together show for audiences.

He says “I decided to create a play in the vein of The Vagina Monologues, easily produced with actors on stools, reading the script from music stands. My hope is that this will create much needed discussion about a very complicated issue,” said writer and actor, Stan Zimmerman.

Let’s warmly welcome, Stan Zimmerman to Bookmarks and Stages.
pics are Stan Zimmerman (writer and actor) Abigail Morris (director), Wendie Malick (Shrinking, Young Sheldon), Emily Kuroda (Gilmore Girls). Check them out and then let’s begin the interview.

1. Stan, you are bringing your show Right Before You Go, a suicide prevention play, driven by the suicide of your real life friend, to the Edinburgh Fringe.

Who or what inspired you to bring the play from NYC to Edinburgh?

“Having one of my plays performed at the famed Edinburgh Fringe Festival has always been on my bucket list. But it felt like a far off dream. It only became reality after our very successful UK industry reading of it this past March at the Soho Theatre. I was honored to share the stage with a stellar cast including Vanessa Williams, Matt Henry, Iz Hesketh and Olly Alexander. The Pleasance Theatre came to that reading and invited me to Fringe for the entire month. We’re hoping to bring the play back to London after Fringe in September, which is World Suicide Prevention Awarness Month.”

2. In the UK, suicide is starting to gain awareness. Why do you feel it is so important to talk about suicide on stage and in the hope of preventing it.

“Theatre can be a powerful tool. I know firsthand. Finding my tribe on stage saved my life.  I want to end the shame surrounding the subject of suicide and talking about it, in this forum is a start. Especially with young people, which is why we’re in discussion tour this play in schools throughout the UK in Spring 2027.”

3. You use real suicide notes of celebrities, veterans, bullied teens, those identifying as LGBTQ+ and those who have experienced mental health issues.

How did you go about getting permission to use letters that are so raw and sensitive?

“All of these notes are in the public domain. They’ve been posted, broadcast or released by family members. Usually with the intent of saving other individuals from suffering in silence. Something I learned when first creating this play, was that newspapers used to regularly publish suicide notes.

5. Right Before I Go is followed by a talkback with a mental health professional.

For those going to the performance, how does that work in practice?

“I made it part of the agreement when licensing my play from TRWshowsUK, that you must do a Talk Back after the show with a local mental health professional. I often find that part of the show, is the most gripping. After I’ve been so open and honest in the play, audience members sometimes reveal feelings and stories that they’ve kept hidden for years. Even decades.”

6. What do you hope the play will achieve by the time people are leaving the auditorium?

“I already know that this play has saved lives since we debuted at the Hollywood Fringe Festival in 2015. Being in Edinburgh, i hope the piece is introduced to the global theatre community. The high suicide rate knows no boudaries of countries. This subject must be addressed through a worldwide lens. On a personal level, I hope that audiences leave the theatre and check in with their friends to see if they’re doing okay.” 

7. How do you and others in the  star-studded cast from Gilmor Girls, Young Sheldon look after own wellbeing after rehearsals and performing in-front of audiences, in-particular after this play which carries such a necessary, important but emotional topic.

“I get asked that question a lot during our Talk Backs, because it’s obviously still so emotional for me to talk about losing my friend to suicide in the play. But it’s also extremely empowering to know that using my craft can make a difference in other people’s lives. Of course, I’ve only done the play two days in a row in the past. I’ll be performing in twenty-four shows in Edinburgh. So if you see me staggering through town, buy me a pint!” 

8. Money will be raised for SL24: Unlocke the Light Foundation, based in Delaware. Can you tell us more about this non-profit organisation?

SL24: UnLocke the Light Foundation is a Delaware-based nonprofit organization with a threefold mission: to educate, assist, and support young people on their mental health journey. For more information on their educational and Peer24 Support programs, please visit www.unlockethelight.com. I had the privilege of meeting Chris Locke during a mini-East Coast US tour starring Virginia Madsen and some “Gilmore Girls” cast members. He lost his son to suicide and created this amazing organization. He said he plans to come to Edinburgh and is a very eloquent speaker on this subject.” 

Tickets can be purchased and further synopsis looked at on the official website for The Pleasance at Edinburgh Fringe Festival here: https://www.pleasance.co.uk/event/right-i-go

#Interview with award-winning Argentine theatre-maker Nicolás Perez Costa on Shakespeare’s Richard III and more… by Lou #CockpitTheatre #NicolasPerezCosta #Shakespeare #RichardIII #Theatre

Nicolás Perez Costa is an award-winning theatre maker and I had the privilege of interviewing him about his latest play, a re-interpretation of Shakespeare’s Richard III, his respect of original works, his respect for Shakespeare, his use of bold staging and movement, what inspired him to enter the theatrical world and into so many roles from director to actor and more…

Richard III received multiple Off Theatre Award nominations. These were for best Best Play, Best Director, Best Actor, and Best Set Design.

Performed in the round and accompanied by live percussion, this physically driven reinterpretation of Shakespeare’s notorious King Richard III places the audience directly inside a brutal and decaying universe where power is fought through bodies, rhythm, and violence.

Let’s give a warm welcome Nicolás Perez Costa to Bookmarks and Stages, where he has answered questions comprehensively with fascinating details.

What attracts you to Shakespeare’s works in general and at what point in your life
did you become interested?


Shakespeare represents, for me, the perfect union of an impeccable dramatic structure, the
beauty and ingenuity of his poetic language and verse, and a vision of the human being that
is, at times, compassionate and, at others, brutally honest. That combination can only
produce the sense of hypnosis we experience when we read his work or watch it performed.
My interest in Shakespeare began when I was a teenager, reading his plays in literature
classes, at first simply because they were part of the curriculum. Gradually, I found that his
writing pulled me out of my chair and invited me to try his speeches, to play with them, to
imagine them. I remember classmates who considered Shakespeare old-fashioned, seeing
his language as something distant from our time. But even then, at a very young age, I felt
the urgency and relevance of his characters, and I was already imagining them inhabiting
different worlds, or existing within the anachronistic universes that were taking shape in my
own imagination.

What fascinates you about Plantagenet King Richard III in particular?

The first time I read Richard III, I was fascinated by the way Richard draws the audience into
his bloody and sinister plans with such naturalness and, I would even say, an irreverent
charisma. The idea of a character with absolutely no limits in the pursuit of his ambitions
captivated me.
To me, those ambitions are born from resentment: the resentment of not having been born
with a body or into a position that would allow him to be loved or recognised. Watching that
resentment transform into a ruthless and bloody plan, and then seeing everything eventually
collapse, feels like a reminder that what is achieved through evil ultimately destroys itself.
This is exactly the kind of story I feel most connected to telling. It reflects the kind of
questions I want theatre to ask and the kind of world I hope it can inspire us to build. I love
history, particularly the histories of England and France, but when I approach plays like this, I
move beyond the historical facts. What interests me is literature’s ability to reveal a deeper
truth: to hold a mirror up to our own reality, or to imagine the world as it could one day
become.

You have created a physical reinterpretation of Shakespeare’s notorious King
Richard III, placing the audience directly inside a brutal and decaying universe. How
have you achieved this and what inspired you to go down the physical route of acting
to tell this story?


My career began in musical theatre. Then, in my mid-twenties, I met a director in Argentina
who introduced me to classical theatre, and above all, to her love of Shakespeare and
Chekhov. From that moment on, I couldn’t help but bring those two worlds together. I have
dedicated my career to bringing the truth and emotional depth of classical theatre into
musical theatre, and, in turn, bringing the physical language of musical theatre into classical
texts.

When I speak about musical theatre, I don’t mean high-energy musicals. I mean the
integration of the body, the voice and emotional truth. I believe that what is expressed
through the body reaches the audience in a direct and instinctive way. They don’t need to analyse every word or fully understand everything that is happening intellectually. Somehow,they recognise that whatever is happening in the actor’s body is also happening within their own.

You’ve re-interpreted the play using bold staging and movement, making it dystopian to show its hard-hitting themes of power and manipulation. What are the challenges in re-imagining a play that’s centuries old and creating a play that’s both recognisable but fresh for a modern audience, whilst also being sensitive to the original piece?

My respect for the original work comes naturally because I have deep respect for literature and for history. I respect the people who came before me, both in life and in this profession. I respect tradition, and I believe that if a work has survived for centuries, it is because of its extraordinary mastery.At the same time, I believe that re-imagining a play and giving it a language and a rhythm that speak to a different audience is also a way of respecting its author. Shakespeare wrote this play centuries ago for an audience that lived at a completely different pace, listen differently, and experienced theatre in a completely different way. I don’t believe that if Shakespeare, or any of the great playwrights of the past, were writing today, they would necessarily write in exactly the same way. The ultimate purpose of theatre is not simply toexpress what we think, but to communicate it to the person who is listening.I firmly believe that theatre does not belong to those who make it, but to those who watch itand experience it. The challenge is always to create a production that can be understood even by someone who would not normally choose to see Shakespeare. Shakespeare, like all great playwrights, needs theatre to remain alive. He needs new audiences. As Chekhov says in The Seagull, “new forms are needed.” For me, the artist’s constant search is for a theatrical language that keeps audiences close to theatre, and encourages those who have never entered a theatre before to come in.

What does showing your play in the round add to the actors’ performances and audiences’ experiences?

I think it’s a fascinating choice, especially at a time when theatre is constantly searching for new forms. The audience is no longer simply a distant, objective observer of what is happening. Instead, they become part of the event itself. The audience doesn’t just watch a character looking at something they can also see how and from where that character is looking. In scenes where ten characters gather to discuss issue, I love the feeling that the audience becomes the eleventh character. Without speaking or intervening, their physical presence changes the energy of the scene. That transforms the way they experience the play, but it also transforms us as actors. Our responsibility is no longer simply to direct our performance towards the audience’s gaze, but to embrace their presence and draw them into the fiction itself.

Who or what inspired you to become an actor, director and playwright and what’s it
like to now have Off Theatre Award nominations for Best Play, Best Director, Best
Actor, and Best Set Design for your work?


To be honest, I like to define myself simply as a theatre-maker, because throughout my
career I have worked in many different roles and learned this craft from many different
perspectives. Becoming an actor, director and playwright wasn’t something I planned—it was the natural consequence of my curiosity, of what fascinated me, and, above all, of the
support my parents gave me when I was very young, encouraging me to follow my instincts.

When I was a child, my aunt was an actress. At school, I had teachers who nurtured my
interests, and I even started little theatre groups during breaks, directing my classmates long before I knew what directing really meant. But without question, my life changed when I met my first great mentor, Pepe Cibrián, in Argentina when I was fifteen. Some encounters are planned, but you can never imagine how profoundly they will shape your life. Mine changed from that moment on.

One day I realised that my life was theatre, and that it could never have been anything else.

There is a beautiful idea that vocation is not something we choose, but something that
chooses us. If we ignore that calling, the consequence is an existential emptiness. I never
really felt I had another option. I have always been who I am, and I have fought to develop that identity.

Receiving these nominations, and later winning Best Play, Best Set Design and Best
Leading Actor, together with previous nominations in Argentina and the José Estruch Award in Spain two years ago for Juana la Loca, feels like a confirmation that the path I chose is recognised by others as meaningful and worthwhile. Those awards don’t give meaning to the choices I made in the past, but they do give strength to the choices I make today. They allow me to look back and realise that, sometimes, after spending years swimming against the current, the current eventually begins to flow with you rather than against you.

What’s next for your play or career?

The Madrid cast will continue touring the production across Spain. Here at The Cockpit, we will present the play with our UK cast, and we hope to continue finding new venues where both productions can keep growing.
Although they share the same artistic vision and the
same origins, they have naturally become two very different productions.

Theatre is never completed by the director alone, it is completed by the actors, and I always try to remain open and flexible to what each company brings to the work.

When I return to Spain, I will continue performing Juana la Loca, which I have been
performing for the past nine years, and Dos Tronos, Dos Reinas, which has been on stage
for the last two. I will also continue leading my acting school, IFAM, where I constantly
develop new productions with my students. One of my greatest passions is creating
opportunities for emerging artists and teaching them the self-management skills that allow them to build their own careers, rather than feeling that their future depends entirely on others.

Looking ahead, I also have a deep personal wish: that the next role I encounter as an actor will be Hamlet, so I can continue exploring this same theatrical language while discovering an entirely new fictional world.

#Interview with Mark Hampton on film – Unlicensed. Now showing on Apple TV, Amazon, YouTube #MarkHampton @Tom_Brumpton_PR

Interview with Mark Hampton on Film – Unlicensed

Interview by Louise Cannon

Unlicensed is released on Apple TV, Amazon and YouTube. Links can be found after the interview.
Unlicensed is a boxing movie, but not your typical boxing movie. This delves deeper into a character called Danny Goode, an insider trader and he has just been released from prison. Viewers get to follow his story, but has he learnt anything?
In the interview we talk about Danny Goode, how this is a very different type of film from other boxing movies, gambling, toxic masculinity and more… You can also see links after this interview as to where to find the film. I viewed the film before composing the interview and even if you aren’t totally a boxing fan, Unlicensed is still a very interesting, good, thought-provoking film, exploring worldly issues and second chances.

Welcome to Bookmarks and Stages. Mark Hampton.

  1. What got you into making short films?

I started making films at a very young age – my dad bought a video camera when I was maybe 8 years old, and I’d seen tv shows abut the making of Star Wars and Indiana Jones, so I was intrigued about how it was all done. A lot of those early efforts involved Lego! Then in my teens I remade Hollywood movies with friends after school – but I began in earnest a little over ten years ago, when I decided I needed to develop my skills as a story-teller. My first real short, A Walk in the Woods was a drama with a kind of fantasy flashback and almost no dialogue. I wanted to see if I could tell a story almost entirely visually.

  • Unlicensed is a film that takes a different look at boxing films, what inspired you to put a spin on things and look at secret gambling addictions?

It really came from a desire to see a different kind of protagonist in a boxing movie. Instead of the classic ‘working-class lad does good’ scenario, I wanted to take a character who’d had everything and lost it, and put him into the boxing ring. Danny was a successful trader on the surface but his addiction destroyed everything. His career, his family, his reputation. Gambling problems are common in the city – the high-stakes, adrenaline fuelled lifestyle is almost designed for addictive personalities, and addicts can be incredibly devious in the way that they hide their addictions.

  • There seems to be a plethora of gambling ads on tv nowadays and a large range of ways to gamble, instead of less as successive governments had promised, what impact do you feel this has on society and how have you fed this into your film to create a strong message?

Governments of all persuasions have been delinquent in their responsibilities to ordinary people, especially those who are vulnerable to gambling addiction. The gambling industry is incredibly lucrative – the CEO of Bet365 is the richest woman in the UK. A multi-billionaire. With that kind of money at stake the industry spends a fortune lobbying government to water-down regulation and prevent the gambling platforms from being held accountable for the damage they do. With Unlicensed I wanted to show the insidious effect of addiction – there’s one scene where everything that’s been hidden suddenly become apparent – that’s the nature of addiction, and the gambling companies keep getting richer because of it.

  • Danny Goode is an insider trader who becomes disgraced. How did you research a trading industry that is partly overt in its actions, but also partly hidden away from public view?

I worked as an auditor for one of the big accountancy firms and I used to audit a brokerage firm, so whilst I haven’t lived the life, I’ve literally seen the receipts. The wining and dining, the bars and clubs – it all part of the lifestyle and is expected of them to maintain their networks. The amounts of money being splashed around are eye-watering, and it’s not surprising that they get this sense of entitlement. I was an auditor around the time of the 2008 financial crisis, and it was shocking that these traders all made fortunes when the going was good, but it was ordinary people that suffered when it all came crashing down. 

  • The film cleverly shows the juxtaposition of lives between those who have moved on whilst Danny was in prison and Danny who thinks he can re-enter his family, friend’s, work colleague’s lives a though everything will fall into place, almost where he left off. How important do you feel it is to create such raw realism?

When we first meet Danny he’s just coming out of prison, but you can tell just by the look on his face that he hasn’t learned anything. He’s still got that city-boy cockiness and wants to pick up where he left off. Finding out that he can’t do that is a rude awakening and big part of his journey – which is to ultimately realise that there are more important things than himself.

  • Danny hooks up with Jon, who gives him a job in his restaurant and shows him his boxing community. How important do you think it was to show Danny being given opportunities against the odds to rebuild his life after his criminal past?

Jon, played brilliantly by Mark Tunstall, is a true friend, possibly the only one Danny has. He knew Danny before he became the hot-shot city boy, and he was never impressed by any of it. He’s just Danny’s mate and he’s there through thick and thin, an it’s only with Jon’s help that Danny is able to finally admit to his gambling problem. But as well as supporting Danny, Jon shows him a different view on what makes a fulfilling and happy life.   

  • Danny has a lot to prove as he builds a new reputation for himself, how do you hope this impacts the audience, that he doesn’t just walk into jobs and has to really work to get to a new place in his life?

It was critical for Danny’s journey that he is forced to face up to the things he’s done and the consequences of his actions on those around him. They say ‘no plan survives contact with the enemy’, and for Danny, the enemy is reality. His early confidence is quickly eroded as his options dry up and he ends up washing pots in Jon’s restaurant for some cash-in-hand. The fall from grace had to be huge enough to make the prospect of stepping into the boxing ring seem like his only way back, and even then it’s not an easy ride – Danny takes a few bruises on the journey to the big fight.

  • You show, in what is almost a side plot, attitudes of some successful men, such as a boxer, who thinks he can practically buy women with his wealth and expect something back with flash tips. What do you feel about men like this and how do you feel these attitudes should and could change?

Nicky Miller represents a kind of toxic masculinity and Jack Newhouse brought that to life superbly. Nicky’s views on women are wildly outdated and offensive but they’re the kinds of views that are being presented to boys and young men on social media all the time. What I think is important is that toxic influencers are exposed as a con and that we celebrate more examples of good, caring men and make them the models of masculinity.

  • Society can be quite materialistic at times, but how do you feel this affected Danny and what inspired you to show a change in him to focus on other priorities in his life?

Danny’s life before Unlicensed begins is really all about material things. He defines himself by what money he can make, what designer things he can have, and it doesn’t matter the cost. He starts breaking the rules to maintain the veneer of success but it eventually catches up with him and he loses everything. From the moment we meet him, he’s on a journey where he’ll have to let go of that old version of himself and realise the value of friendship, of family, of real work. 

What do you hope audiences will take away from the film?

I want audiences to believe in second chances and that people can change. I want them to feel like they’ve been on the journey with Danny, and seen that with people who care around you, there’s nothing you can’t overcome. I also hope they feel like they’ve seen a great boxing movie.

Where can people watch Unlicensed and what’s next for you?

Unlicensed is now available in the UK and Ireland on

AppleTV:

https://tv.apple.com/gb/movie/unlicensed/umc.cmc.56mt07mknw8lwaikymxif3sz7

Amazon

And youtube:

I’m working on release plans for Unlicensed in other territories and starting to think about my next film, which is a high-octane heist movie called Five Cars.

https://www.instagram.com/hammyactor/

https://www.instagram.com/unlicensed_movie/

https://www.markhamptonofficial.com/

Thank you very much for your time.

Louise Cannon
Bookmarks and Stages

#FilmInterview with director, Alistair Train by Lou about short film, Pearls #Pearls #AlistairTrain #ShortFilm @huskyfusky #MarkWingett @Tom_Brumpton_PR

Interview with Alistair Train
on short film – Pearls

Interview by Louise Cannon

Alistair Train is a film director who has created 7 films, some of which have qualified for major awards such a the BAFTA’s, more about that later. For those of you who remember The Bill on ITV/STV, for Pearls, he has a major cast member appear in it, find out more as to who, in the interview.

Pearls takes film fans into the life of a couple who’s desire it is to start a family. It doesn’t go as planned as things start to occur. It’s a film, in a short space of time, is thought-provoking and capture your attention in different ways.

In the interview we talk about the highly bold and relevant themes it carries, such as masculinity and not confronting issues, emotions surrounding fertility, achieving certain effects and flashbacks in the film, a prestigious cast member, awards, next project and more…
You also get a peek behind the scenes in some of the official photos, passed to me by Tom Brumpton PR.

Let’s welcome Alastair Train to Bookmarks and Stages. Thank you very much for the opportunity to interview you.

1. You’ve now created 7 films, some of which have qualified for the likes of BAFTA, what or who inspired you to become a film-maker and what’s it like knowing that what you’re creating is of a high calibre to capture the attention of people who are part of prestigious awards?

I’ve always wanted to tell stories, but when I was younger, I wasn’t sure what the right medium was. That changed when I watched John Carpenter’s The Thing at probably too young an age. Seeing a film that visceral, with such a bleak tone – shocked me in a profound way. From then I knew that I wanted to make films that would create that same feeling in other people.

Knowing that some of my shorts have gone on to qualify for major awards is an amazing feeling. It validates that the films you’re making are sticking with people, and it’s a great motivator topush you forward onto the next project.

2. What was it like to direct someone as prestigious as Mark Wingett who is fondly remembered for The Bill amongst my generation and of course many other films?

It was such an honour to get the chance to work with Mark. He was so kind, generous, and brought something truly special to the role.

The best thing about working with actors like Mark is that they don’t just listen to your ideas – they provide their own. They know how to shape the character and give you what you’re looking for, but then take it a step further, bringing something new and unexpected. It’s amazing to collaborate with people like that.

3. The idea of Pearls was sparked by a strange encounter your brother had with an oyster. What was this encounter and how did this click for you, giving you the idea of this film?

The idea came from a rather disgusting oyster that my brother once ate. He described it to me as “thick and foamy”, which is not a particularly reassuring way to describe an oyster.

When I researched it, I found out that if an oyster is thick and foamy it means it’s fertile, and the foam that my brother ate was… well, best to leave that to the imagination.

The moment I had that horrific image in my head, I knew I had to find a way to include it in a film.

4. You explore toxic masculinity and the extremes people will go to in order to avoid confronting their problems. What inspired you to have this as a major theme and how important do you feel it is to have them depicted in modern day films?

I think it’s fair to say that most people go through life with some issues they’re not confronting, but what stuck out to me was how these issues are being used to sell products to you online. When I was researching oysters and their historical use as “aphrodisiacs”, I started to notice how the adverts on my feed changed – pills, creams, supplements, “are you losing your hair?”, “low testosterone?”, “do you have erectile dysfunction?”

You feel almost attacked by these products, and from a male perspective it’s clear these “cures” are marketed in a way that targets your masculinity. They give you the option to preserve your pride instead of doing the right thing – talking to a doctor, a therapist, your partner. That felt like a natural fit with the horrific oyster imagery I wanted to create.

I think that if you have a story that can naturally incorporate these issues into it, then you should go and make it, but it’s important that your film takes people on a journey and isn’t just about that one theme. I made Pearls because I wanted to make a body horror about oysters, and the themes fell into place. If you’re too obvious, it can undercut what you’re saying and start to feel preachy.

5. How did you, creating the film, and the actors, draw on the emotions needed to be authentic when the conversations in the film were about fertility issues?

The key was creating an open environment from the start. I was honest with Rory and Helen about the tone I wanted and why this story mattered to me. While fertility is the surface issue, Tony and Linda are really a couple who’ve lost the ability to be honest with each other – so the emotional core we needed to access was that sense of distance and unspoken resentment between two people who love each other but can’t communicate.

Having an intimacy coordinator was invaluable here. There’s a misconception that they only help with physical scenes, but what ours really did was create a safe space for Rory and Helen to inhabit this fractured relationship. That safety allowed them to go to vulnerable places without it feeling exploitative or overwhelming. When actors trust the process, authenticity follows.

6. What gave the inspiration for the flashback after tasting the oyster and how was that filmed to show all the images in the manner which they are?

That was one of my favourite sections to film. I knew while I was writing the script that I wanted to have a “vision” scene, and it was a lot of fun imagining how it could look. Visually, it was inspired by the body-switch scene from Brandon Cronenberg’s Possessor – it was so visceral and ethereal that I knew I wanted to create a similar sensation in Pearls.

We filmed most of that section using a special vintage lens from the Astro Berlin Pan-Tachar series that we nicknamed “oyster vision”. It helped us create that dreamy look I was hoping for, and we looked for as many opportunities as possible to use it.

A lot of credit has to go to my editor, Iñigo, who had to make sense of all that material – I think he made something truly memorable.

7. There are a few silent moments, what was your intention and what do you hope the audience draws from them?

I wanted to give the audience a chance to sit in silence with the characters’ decisions. It helps build the tension and gives people space to think about whether they’d do the same thing. Like in real life, people aren’t just walking around talking to themselves all the time – so to me those moments of silence make the characters more believable and easier for the audience to connect with.

I love it when you get to imagine what the characters are feeling rather than having them explain it, and when you’re working with actors like Rory, Helen and Mark, their faces can tell you so much without them saying a word.

8. What appealed to you to use the horror genre to convey the themes you do?

Body horror has always appealed to me because the best ones are cleverly disguised dramas, with horrific imagery that lets your audience not just see but also feel the transformation the characters go through. The audience isn’t being told something – they get to experience it.

9. How did you achieve the special effects when the film turns full horror?

From the start, I knew that I wanted the effects to be done practically – the challenge was figuring out how to make it happen. That was until my producer introduced me to our production designer, Olavo. He brought in an incredible SFX and prosthetics team who worked tirelessly to bring the transformations to life.

The attention to detail was amazing – they scanned real oysters and used them to create the flesh textures for the actors, and 3D-printed the giant shells. It was incredible to see it on set, and I hope that shows in the film.

10. Where can people watch the film and whats your next project?

The film is on its festival run right now, so it won’t be publicly available for at least another year. However, you can catch it next at the Bay International Film Festival in early January 2026.

As for what’s next, I’m developing two feature films – My Life, about VR and escapism, and Coming Home, an action horror about a murderous cult in the English countryside – and another short ‘Let it grow’ about hypochondria.